stewie

14/04/2011 13:54:44 #

i don't do PDA  so it don't bother me , no matter how much we'd like it or try to make it an ideal world it will never be , me personally i don't wanna see ne one doing that in public gay str8 or what ever we're all entitled too our own opinion i have mines they have  theirs so on and forth

Graham Webb

14/04/2011 14:33:53 #

It really does depend on what they were doing - a real long tonguing or a peck on the cheek? As a gay man myself I don't necessarily want to see overt displays of affection; there's a thin line between acceptable & what should be done in private. You, I feel, are probably over-dramatising this episode. You've stamped "No Gays Allowed" across a photo of the pub yet your text does not say they were thrown out for being gay, but for kissing. I would guess the Manager made a decision about what they were doing/how long they were doing it for and asked them to leave. Everybody knows Soho is London's gay area but there must be some places where an overt gay clientele is not overly-encouraged.
(And PLEASE can we have better spelling in your pieces!!).

Michael

14/04/2011 14:41:47 #

The old adage still applies,when in rome

dennis

14/04/2011 16:11:07 #

wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaa a man kissing other man in public are u crazy ?
Thats only allowed if u are footboller,and only if your team score a goal in that case u maybe kiss hag put your hands all over the other.and that is be str8...!! ???
lolololololol

Jason

14/04/2011 17:21:44 #

i say they should have kicked the c**ts head in, people like that really piss me off and if it continues all these homophobic people out there will have a war on their hands, a war they won't win.

Junior

14/04/2011 18:06:55 #

I get what the article is saying about the event, but there is still some areas I don't understand. That person who claimed to be a plain cloths Police Officer could have been ANYONE, did that person show any I'D to them? if a REAL plain cloths Police Officer was present then that official would have rang for back up and uniformed officers would have come handled the situation officially. No plain cloths police officer would let themselves be known, they are meant to be the secret eyes of their unit so their secret identity is crucial. Also, if that was a real Officer for /he or she not to have reported the incident is illegal and is ( obstruction of justice) and ( Preventing the cause of justice) which comes with jail term. So that so-called plain cloths pretend officer better hide or confess before the truth comes out if he or she is really a copper.I don't mind seeing public affection, I am gay and me and my feyonce Nickolas hug and hold hands in public just like heterosexuals do. And no one wouldn't dare say shit to us or else I will be in jail for assault. However, I do not like seeing heterosexual couples standing in the middle of the streets blocking it up whilst they snog with tongues and all to see. That belongs in the bedroom and not in public. The behaviour of the venue's staff was disgusting and I feel that this couple should NOT have left, they should have taken out their phones and rang the police immediately and reported an assault and breach if their rights on prejudice. If they read this comment I have posted, they must not give up on fighting this and I hope they stay strong and destroy the fuckers involved. Through the legal system.

yondare

14/04/2011 19:50:57 #

As usual, your blog is perfunctory, leaving out as much as it leaves in. Had the couple been kissing over-fervently, and for how long before being challenged? Had there been complaints from other customers to the landlord? More importantly, why did the couple choose a straight pub to kiss in, when any amount of gay pubs and venues were nearby? If they calculated that this would create more reaction, and have a bigger effect, then they were in the wrong. Whatever rights we have, do we have the right to offend other drinkers? And the same would apply to straight couples snogging in gay pubs.

Paul

14/04/2011 21:11:08 #

Can you imagine if they had been two Muslims?  It would have been headline news all over the place!

Raul Brammin

14/04/2011 21:30:42 #

Hi I live in Central London and I am discreetly gay but have no problem with openly gay people or for that matter straight people.

Firstly no one knows what sort of kissing was going on between Johnathan and his partner.

Please guys, straight people hardly come into gay joints when gays are partying. You see the gays overtly over each other in gay joints. You hardly see even straight people this open in straight party joints. I dont know the situation is such that most defiant gays just want to go into straight joints, do things even straights dont mostly and rub into the straight peoples faces. AND EXPECT THEM TO BE FINE.

Please understand this is NOT FINE !

I am GAY , But I will not support this cause. You have NO RIGHT to discomfort people in a straight pub or club like this and think they are being sexist just because you couldnt get away with murder.

The fact that gay people are being accepted is great and thats good enough. Now gays want to get thrills out of kissing in straight clubs and titillating straight people ? dont tell me that wont happen. We gays are more into perverse sexual demeanour.

Please enjoy in gay joints the way you want to . dont go rubbing into straight peoples faces. Who knows that security man must have gotten secret complaints from women and men in the club. And that led him to take this step?

buzz

15/04/2011 06:00:00 #

Junior. First of all your blog is almost unreadable due to lack of grammar and punctuation. That aside. I am a retired cop. A plain clothes police officer is not the "secret eyes" of their unit. Also it is not a criminal offence for them not to report it. I guess if it was a plain clothes cop he/she was trying to defuse the situation in an unofficial way, but using the fact that they were a Police officer to give credibility to their position. There is no such offence as "preventing the cause of justice". Please, before you post, take a few minutes to get the facts right.

robin4

15/04/2011 10:44:34 #

I guess Jonathan and his date are trying to get some compensation.
This does no one any favours.

Trevor

15/04/2011 14:48:36 #

I can't understand why everyone is defending the bar??!! As gay men you should be ashamed of yourselves.  Whether it was a peck or a makeout session who gives a shit!!  All of your comments are a perfect example of why lgbt men and women are treated as second class citizens in the United States and almost every place on the planet.  Until we start standing up for ourselves nothing will ever change.  It is really sad to read all of your comments!

Stewie- Are you a retard?? It's not about your views on PDA its about right or wrong! Its about homophobia! God forbid if your "straight" parents got kicked out of a pub for necking the night you were conceived!! You might not be here to post idiotic comments on this blog that help to suppress the very group you identify with!!

Grahm- Everything i just wrote to stewie applies to you also.  Along with; if you don't like the spelling don't read the blog it's not a fucking dissertation!!

Yondare (if that is your real name)- Why should gay people have to go to a gay bar to display affection?? Do you realise how stupid you sound?? A straight couple getting kicked out of a gay bar for "snugging" I have never been to the UK but i can't imagine the gay bars are much different from the US and here gay bars are the only place you can go that everyone is accepted unconditionally and it doesnt matter if a straight couple is fucking on the bar there will be a bunch of queens and bears and twinks cheering them the fuck on!!!!  

Please all, think about equality and the true meaning of the word before you have to put your foot in your mouth again.  All you are doing with your small minded views are expressing the brain washing you received as children that being gay is inherently wrong and now as gay men yourselves you are still harboring shreds of homophobia because you are uncomfortable in your own skin.  It is not your fault though it is the fault of our forefathers and ancestors and until we all stand up together at the same time with the help of our family and friends and say that hate and discrimination will no longer be tolerated and no excuses (as you are all trying to make for the bar) will be excepted for hate!

Thanks and i hope you all start supporting your people and help to stop the hate!

Ivan

16/04/2011 00:05:25 #

I was kicked out of a London pub once for kissing another guy.  OK, we were both in the same bathroom stall at the time, but still...

jay

19/04/2011 00:35:18 #

BORING!!! get a life ppl. big deal, atleast ppl wnt be going to that pub anymore. and eye for and eye is not the way forward. grow up or f*uk off.

Sean T Traynor

03/05/2011 14:29:24 #

As an openly gay man and ex pub operator, gay and straight, but generally mixed. My rules were alway the same, if you want to exhibit bedroom behaviour, time to go home to your bedroom and not in the pub.

The sexulaity is not the questions here. The facts of the situation are, and I don't really know if they have been presented anywhere in the press or elsewhere accurately.

If you want to snog, or be affectionate other than a token gesture of affectionate in public, go to a venue that condones that behaiour, and there are plenty of them close by to The Snow,

This kind of debate does nothing for the reputation of Gay society, or any one else, and I feel it is very unfortunate to have occurred!